The Intellihub
Shepard Ambellas
July 29. 2011
The U.S. debt is totally out of control — now sitting at $14.3 Trillion, raising the debt ceiling will only buy a little more time until a massive crash takes place and total chaos ensues (economic and physical), a total fall of the republic.
The agenda seems to be to push for raising the debt limit ceiling to save this once great nation’s AAA credit rating — but what does a AAA credit rating mean if you go totally broke later and fall even harder?
The 14th Amendment states: “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”
This is the new tactic that the powers that be plan on using to obtain their goal (create more debt).
Obama can also use PDD51 or other Executive Orders provided to him under Pandemic Level 6 (which was extended by Obama until March of 2012) to raise the debt ceiling.
Pandemic Level 6 gives them all they need to do what ever they want, we are technically in a silent martial law.
Obama stated the other day that “Any solution to avoid the default must be bipartisan, supported by both parties and the American people, not just one faction.”
But yet one faction (Obama and the powers that be) will use Executive Orders to get this passed.
Doublespeak at it’s best.
Listen to this FOX News clip of a public threat being made (just as The Intellihub eluded to last Sunday in the viral article titled: Pentagon To Deploy 20,000 Troops In CONUS For Civil Unrest, Possible Threats To Populace) where they hint (threaten) martial law;
This is what the staged spectacle has come to, so predictable we called it nearly a week ago.
There are also threats of canceling Social Security, Veterans benefits and more as we spiral into the abyss.
One person (or should I say sheep) said, “The country had a perfect credit rating and now they want to ruin it”.
But what would extending the debt really do, but bring us more into debt, more into trouble as stocks and paper money dwindle to nothing.
The DOW fell as the Tuesday deadline approaches. Investors worried about the countries AAA credit rating.
Expect to see even more of a staged circus sideshow in the coming days and possibly some type of major staged event.
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The key phrase here is “Authorized by law”. meaning subject to the control of the Congress, which is the law creation body. President Obama cannot raise the debt limit under the 14th Amendment, he may only spend the money Congress authorizes him to spend.
Nor should we willingly follow the President into self-immolation just because there is a law for it!
he wouldn’t be spending any new money,only money already authorized by congress in the laws they have already passed. If the money isn’t there to pay for the laws already on the books,who will decide which laws to follow? Obama or any president has to follow the laws passed by congress. They do not have the option of not paying for the laws they passed. They are free at any time to pass new laws and change the spending.
“Dictatorial Powers” wouldn’t that be executive powers? hmmm.
Please read the entire 14th admendment, Section 4, second sentence,”But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, . . . all such claims be held illeal and void.” The debt created by the Federal Reserve, a private bank owned by people, some of whom are not citizens of the United States, to me is an insurrection. Others, who are citizens of the United States, that continue to increase the debt are guilty of rebellion. In fact I hope someone will used this admendment NOW to bring every member of all three branches of our government to trial for treason!
The Federal government of 2011 is gridlocked by open class warfare between the representatives of the working class rich $1,000,000 to say $10,000,000
and the richer middle and upper class rich whose incomes and wealth exceeds $10,000,000. Nowhere is the interest of anyone other than the upper 1% of economic strata reflected. The non-ideological nature of the gridlock must be stressed. There is broad agreement about wealth transfer upwards. There is broad agreemeent about the need for American imperialism with her wars and bases and munitions. There is disagreement about how to fund this and the other obligations the Federal government undertakes. How to balance the compelling needs of various interest groups with the clumsy instrument of law. President Obama will not act under any legal color to raise the debt ceiling as it is not in his interest to do so. Far better to let the Republicans paint themselves into the corner, have a technical default, and say the failure in Congress was entirely one sided.
And who is supposed to do that when the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial Branches all are found to be corrupt?
We the People?
Really? How are we supposd to go about it then? What the hell have we done so far?
Looks like we’re gonna be playing defense…HOPE it all works out.;-)
I was responding to David, Administrator. Why don’t you put my comment AFTER his to reflect that?
Unless you WANT people to believe I was siding with the liberal that posted after him.
Hmmm….
Nick the comments show up the way they show up i dont choose the order I dont have time to worry about that kind of stuff man I am sorry it shows it that way.
No problem, man. I believe you.
Thanks for getting back with me.
Now you’re copying Bachmann’s “14th Amendment = dictatorial powers” talking points? Great way to strain your credibility. Do I need to point out the moronic irony of equating exercising the Constitution with “dictatorial powers”?
“But what would extending the debt really do”
It would continue to pay our debts that were approved by previous Congresses, as well as fund essential services. Or do you think that a enlisted military personnel and all federal employees should no longer be payed? We’re talking thousands losing housing, poor families and children not being able to buy food, and thousands of college students no longer being able to start fall classes….and this is if it goes on for one month. Sounds cute to an anarchist but what do you think taking $150Billion out of the economy (on top of essentially laying off every federal employee) will do? Why do you WANT to create a national crisis that will literally force a Great Depression onto this country? You do understand that this kind of crisis would inevitably result in martial law, right? Is that why you want the debt ceiling not raised, to force an economic catastrophe so you can say “ah ha! see I told you he was a dictator!” This sounds like some Dominionist “created the crisis to fulfill the prophecy” thinking and its very bizarro and scarey.
Rivero, you “Authorized by law” interpretation is also wrong. The current debt was already “authorized by law” when Congress approved the spending programs which incurred the debt. The quote does not allow the President to pay new debts (for example he can’t start a war and invoke the 14 Amendment to pay for it), simply to cover those expenses already approved by Congress. Some of the IOUs this debt will pay include Bush’s unfunded tax cuts for the rich, Bush’s unfunded Medicare Part D program, and Bush’s (and now Obama’s) unfunded wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama’s spending programs only account for 1/4th of the current debt.
Copying Council For National Policy and Koch Brother shill Michelle Bachmann? HAHA YEAH RIGHT. This website has consistently exposed Bachmann and has never supported any of her causes or talking points. Obama literally just said its tempting to bypass congress and do things on his own yet you are telling me that exposing this is a Bachmann idea?
The fact that its openly called martial law is somehow connected to Michelle Bachmann?! No, your comment was cleverly placed on this important article to convince liberals that this information is just more right wing rhetorical when in reality it has nothing to do with left or right. We have a long history of exposing the Republicans and the Democrats!
FAIL
I see you tried to triangulate my position into the false liberal vs. conservative paradigm. No. I said copying Michelle Bachmann on this strains your credibility because she is a moron. A complete and utter idiot, and to repeat the same arguments as her is a sign something is not right with YOUR argument.
I also see you didn’t bother to resolve the contradictory logic in arguing against the 14th Amendment solution because it allegedly means Obama will have invoked dictatorial powers…while at the same advocating not paying the debt, which would undeniably cause a crisis that leads to Obama invoking dictatorial powers (martial law).
Markos. You are telling me that Michelle Bachmann essentially copyrights words? Repeat the same arguments she uses? Give me a break. The whole controlled Tea Party takes alternative news views and twists them for their own agenda.
Do not sit here and tell me im copying ANYTHING from Bachmann regardless if something I said might have been similar to something she said. I do not support Bachmann and have NEVER EVER used her as a source. Get your facts straight.
You obviously cannot see past their psy ops. Bachmann, Beck and all the other fake patriots take the facts that the alternative media puts out and reports them with a spin for their own agenda. This in turn makes liberals like you believe that what we are saying is somehow similar to the Republicans. It is a TRICK. The Intellihub has not and never will copy Bachmann.
This is ALL a dog and pony show, the real financial issues such as the private federal reserve are not even being talked about. Obama is floating the idea of using dictatorial powers to see how the public reacts.
Obama knows that most liberals will ignore his illegal power grab as long as the Republicans say it is bad. Bush did the same thing.
Don’t forget the proposed scheme: 2 x $1 Trillion dollar coins being minted under Executive Order and draw checks upon their “value.” As one wag said, ‘why not just mint a $2 trillion dollar coin?’
And that the acknowledged debt is actually around 50% higher at $22 trillion once you count items kept off the books like finding all th “wars.”
The bill’s long overdue. The powers that be have no intention of ceasing spending. And their habit of borrowing ever more has proven the least painful way of accomplishing spending. So that will be the method. Of course the credit card limit will be raised—because CONgress controls the credit card limit.
If anyone still considers elections will fix anything you are way past not paying attention and are firmly living a delusion. When you come to realize you can’t fix anything it is time to kick back and enjoy the show. Oh, and also withdraw your own assets as much as possible from the powers that be and the United States’ economy. Because the USA’s currency is about to receive another devaluing very soon. Gosh, it seems like only 5 years ago gold I was at $600 an ounce—now that is what I call devaluation of the currency (or THE hidden tax).
We’ve extended our reach in every way in this country. Our greed for power, oil, and money has influenced every decision made in the last 4 decades and it’s time to pay up! By continuing on this path, we’re creating our own demise…our true enemy is from within!
Hey people … perhaps its time to impeach then remove Obama, the lie.
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http://www.IMPEACHthenREMOVE.com
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http://www.OBAMAtheLIE.com
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