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SSDI Death Index: Sandy Hook ‘Shooter’ Adam Lanza Died One Day Before School Massacre?
Note: In no way is the author of this article claiming that there were no victims shot at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, rather the article points out a complex false flag operation with very real victims. It is also important to note that this matter is still currently under open investigation by intellihub.com, please send any tips or information to: tips@intellihub.com
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Adam Lanza
By Shepard Ambellas
intellihub.com
January 21, 2013
NEWTOWN — New information has come to light regarding the Sandy Hook School shooting, as the “official story” given to the American public is riddled with inconsistencies.
According to and confirmed by GenealogyBank.com, the alleged lone shooter Adam Lanza that left 26 people dead on December 14, 2012 was documented to be deceased one day prior to the mass shooting that took place at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut.
The following data is available at GenealogyBank.com;
The SSDI database shows Adam Lanza to be expired on December 13, 2012, one day prior to the school shooting. Confirmation Status is listed as “Proven”. However the state of issue is New Hampshire.
The implications of this are unfathomable if accurate.
Could this be why John Blawie, a Connecticut State Superior Court Judge has put a halt on search warrant affidavits?
An excerpt from the local CT Post reads;
DANBURY — A state Superior Court judge said Thursday that search warrant affidavits for the cars and home of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza and his mother would stay sealed for another 90 days.
Judge John Blawie granted motions filed Wednesday by Danbury State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky to extend the statutory sealing period for the five warrants, including three for the Yogonanda Street home where the 20-year-old Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy, four times in the face on the morning of Dec. 14, before embarking on the rampage that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead.
We are still conducting a full scale investigation into this matter. Please send any tips or information to tips@intellihub.com
Source Links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZzWIDC79Oo&list=PLD15C8WwgQHnYj1EeA6Px1SM…
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143A177167B62EF8
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-sho…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
http://hosting-24974.tributes.com/condolences/view_memories/94935278#4798482
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Shep, CBS link says “Nancy” but google makes me think Natalie Hammond was one of the survivors. Has she spoken out? Has ryan lanza spoken out? Anyone? CBS report says the bushmaster was found in the car … wiki says adam shot through the glass with it. Do you know who is responsible for the wikipedia write up?
This new info is certainly interesting. Dead on the 13th… CBS also mention ryan and his room mates being detained on the 13th, which could have been a typo, where as it would be pretty tough to spell out “thursday” and call it a typo.
Are people in newtown still on police lockdown as far as speaking out goes? Referring to the wiki story, who is the cop lanza had seen and shot himself in front of?
Not to throw water on your fire but how do we KNOW the date is not an data entry error? Or intentionally mis-entered to ferret out conspiracy theorists? It would not be the first time our government and others have intentionally run disinformation campaigns to find “resisters” to the government cause. Can you please verify that the date of death is a CORRECT date and not just cause the website says verified. Thanks.
Listen my friend. This information comes directly from the US governments Social Security Death Index.
I did the research myself after seeing this. Only terrified, desperate souls will still question it’s authenticity.
Lanza hasn’t been seen, and has no records for over three years.
Wake the F up.
Agree 100%! Only terrified and highly misguided people will question this. WAKE UP! Obama got you!!
Really, Ken?
So… Steve brings up a very valid point and you just dismiss it because you found it in the SSDI? The SSDI, and those who populate it with information, are infallible then?
Wake the F up.
Consider all potentialities before you jump to a conclusion and call your speculation a fact.
Don’t write off a REAL possibility just because it doesn’t jive with your current theory. When you do that you’re failing at critical thought.
Only terrified and desperate souls will latch on to the first potential fantastic conclusion that they come up with in a feeble attempt to understand the world around them and to feel a little bit more relevant and important than they actually are.
Yes, it could be a data entry error.
And I wasn’t only born at night, I was born last night.
So, apparently, are a few others.
To think that this one record, out of all the records I and everyone else has checked, just happens to be a typo is really reaching. Some might call it to the point of desperation.
But, it is quite possible that someone at the SSA or with access to their web site (like the web administrator) could purposely be playing mind games on us).
I PUT NOTHING PAST THESE PEOPLE.
I know for a fact that the SSDI can be wrong. My grandfather died on Jan. 21…I know because he was my Grandfather and he died the same day as my Grandmother, only a few days later. SSDI lists his death as Jan. 20.
And it just happens, that one of the most famous people in America right now, is “accidentally” entered incorrectly.
Again, while it’s possible, it’s not likely.
May I remind you of all the Google searches and web sites, that were set up prior to the date of the HOAX. There’s about 10 of them at last count.
If it was just one or two of these “bizarre” instances, you might be able to write them off as “accidental”.
But, you have to be a complete sucker to believe all of this just kind of happened by “coincidence” or by “mistake”.
For those who DO believe all this is just accidental, I have a few bridges to sell you….I guarantee you they’re a real bargain…..ha ha ha
PS…The EMT’s Never Left the Fire Station
^Sorry. My grandparents died on the same day a few years apart. Point is SSDI got it wrong.
If it were REALLY an error, don’t you think they would’ve corrected it by now? So many people have called it into question, I’m sure they’ve noticed by now, but they haven’t ‘fixed’ it. Why? Probably because it’s true.
Why you so hostile; he’s just telling the truth. It did come from the Social Security, who happens to be a government agency. Are they capable of mistakes, sure. But there’s far more inconsistencies, and downright shocking aspects to what’s going on than just a “clerical error.” If you believe the official story, that’s fine, but there’s no reason to freak out just because others are keeping there eyes open.
Look dude even if that was an error…
there is more than enough clear and convincing evidence that points to something fishy, to say the very least. Sounds like you may be in denial..
Yeah obviously the government is following through with a massive cover-up, and just forgot to change the real day Adam Lanza died.
and we have a winner!!!
the rest of you and fucktards.
What sort of records are a 20 year old who lives with his mother supposed to have? You or I have credit or debit trails, monthly bills, cell phone records and other expenses and paper trails that can help to prove or deny our existence should we need it… but 20?
At 20 you can very easily live off a cash stipend (allowance) have no credit history, not have major emergencies that might cause a hospital visit… and no school to attend to say you were there.
18-to the mid-20s is a very easy time to fall off of a map, so I’m pretty sure you’re counting chickens that might not have hatched quite yet.
Of course, you’re perfectly free to believe whatever you wish, and in the case of atrocities like this we would much rather believe something dark, sinister and unavoidable than believe a human capable of such on their own. But history has shown that even the most normal and gentle of men were capable of the most brutal and unthinkable of acts against their fellow man.
Perhaps you need to “wake up” and understand that this sort of darkness- as well as light- exists in every one of us on some level.
Look at yourself. Someone questioned the information and you immediately reacted as if you were a growling dog backed into a corner. Was that vehemence truly necessary in your response to a mere question?
I put it to you that it is an example, albeit on a much much smaller scale, of how we can fail to treat others with respect.
We all have opinions, and there is truth (no matter how small a grain) to each opinion. As easy as it can be to lash out because you disagree, one of the best things we can do as human beings, and in the light of this tragedy, is to take a step back, take a deep breath and present our personal opinions with tact and back up with facts where we may, understanding that there will always be those who disagree with us, no matter what the issue or stance.
Best to you.
I apologize to others if I seemed harsh in some of my replies.
I should realize that not everyone has spent almost 100 hours researching this like I have.
There is no evidence of any kind, that any part of the Sandy Hook official story is true. I know this because I’ve done the research.
But, I have to remember that other people are still trying to figure out what happened.
In future I’ll try more, to go with that old saying “you catch more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar”.
Agree…same with me…over 100 hours of research and virtually nothing out of CT PD is true. But I tell you, collectively, we are not that far from the truth. If found, that truth will lead to “cleaning house” at long last. We have been corrupted as a nation. Let us now, at long last, finish the work that John F Kennedy started. The real story behind Sandy Hook is the road to our salvation as a nation. We have to go for it, people.
to answer your question my 18 yr.old has college records, work records, facebook records, xbox records, driving records,friends,skype etc. the people on the street didn’t even know the family something not right only a fool would trust the govt. how about the deaths of two firearm manufactures just a couple weeks ago, 1 found dead without life threatening injuries, the other found shot in the head on the side of the road, how about the 119 scientist in the last couple of years?
IDK about you guys but I’d feel a lot safer if I thought this was just some random insane guy instead of something “dark, sinister and unavoidable”…. To me, the latter is something to be 100x more feared than the former.
You know what this smells of, to me? Abduction of the child Adam Lanza into sexual slavery three years ago, ending in his being snuffed, then they “off” him officially to put an end to any lingering questions.
The picture of him even looks fake.
There is every possibility that it is mere error. From Genealogy Bank’s Terms of Service page:
6. Limitations on Liability
(a) NewsBank uses reasonable efforts to include accurate and up-to-date information and Content in the Site, but makes neither express nor implied warranties as to the accuracy of either. NewsBank assumes no responsibility for the Content furnished by any publishers, and expressly disclaims liability for any offensive, defamatory, and/or infringing Content that may be furnished by a publisher for inclusion on the Site. NewsBank has not reviewed any sites linked to the Site and is not responsible for the Content of any off-Site pages or any sites linked to the Site. Your access to, and use of, the Site, including your linking to any other off-Site pages or other sites, are at your own risk.
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Which expressly means that they both make mistakes, and want you to know mistakes have been/can be/likely will again be made.
Full TOS to the site found here:
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/information/terms_of_use/index.html
It could be a simple mistake. It could be a conspiracy. Like any information that is available, the reader will take what they wish from it.
This is the answer I received today from SSDI regarding Adam Lanza’s date of death being noted as December 13, 2012:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Death of Adam P Lanza Date of December 13, 2012?????
________________________________________
JAN 22, 2013 | 07:35AM MST
Dave replied:
Dear XXXXXXXXX,
We understand your concern. The Social Security Death Index is made available to the public through a number of various websites including GenealogyBank.com. GenealogyBank is only a host for the Social Security Death Index. As a result, we do not control the information that is provided us in the SSDI.
In order to have information corrected or removed, please contact your local Social Security Administration (SSA) office. Documented proof of an error may be required. Contact information for your local office can be found at http://www.ssa.gov/.
If you have any further requests please do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you for contacting support,
Dave
Family History Consultant
GenealogyBank Support
Phone: 866-641-3297
Fax: 801-616-4602
You confused me when I first read this.
The email you show is signed by GenealogyBank Support, NOT SSDI.
Therefore, it should read:
“This is the answer I received today from GenealogyBank Support concerning their SSDI data.”
In essence, GenealogyBank Support is telling you that this information came directly from the SSA Master Death File, over which they have no control.
And this puts to bed the theory that a paying member could have done this. So, we can forget about that.
I’ve stated all along, that someone with access to the “SSA Master Death File” data, could have done that. Possibly, even someone with inside access to the GenealogyBank web site. Even possibly hackers.
But, to believe they would make an honest mistake, entering in the death of the most famous guy in America, is something only the most gullible amongst us will believe.
And the kid may truly have been “put down” the day before the “event”, too. Or maybe’s he’s been brainwashed and sheep dipped by the CIA to come back as another person. These people are truly capable of anything.
All I know is, nobody got shot. It’s a “Made for TV” Drama.
The EMT’s never left the Fire Station
How do you know it’s a ‘fact’ that the EMT’s never left the fire station???? Where’s the proof??? You have to back up those accusations with substantial evidence.
Find me one picture or statement from anyone, that says the EMT’s went into the building.
I’ve got a bunch that admit they were told to stand down.
Truth
I agree with RJ…..he’s an EMT…and he’s an expert (MHO) on procedures an EMT would follow.
Why do you doubt what he says???? Paranoia, setting in??? Can’t come up with any links to dispute what he said??
You want proof from us..but what about giving us some credible proof? Just the facts, please. We all have our opinions on Sandy Hook…and they should be respected.
The police and/or SWAT teams won’t let EMT’s in a non secure area. That’s standard procedure every where.
EMT’s were told to stand down because they weren’t needed.
Another thing…I thought this thread was suppose to be a debate on the SSDI DOD article??? A little off topic, aren’t we? Just sayin’!
I’m sure that that will be explained as a typographical error. The guv’mint makes a lot of mistakes and covers them up and most of the sheeple bleieve these simple, stupid excuses because “our guv’mint” wouldn’t do something like that, you must be a conspiracy theorist.
My birthdate was reported correctly to Social Security as the 19th and then somewhere along the line someone changed it to the 9th. I wasn’t aware of the change until they started sending annual statements. The woman at the Social Security office confirmed it had been changed for no apparent reason, so I know they do screw up. That said, I just saw more video coverage on a television news story about a “threat” on social media to a local high school than we saw of the Sandy Hook massacre. I have done my own research and the amount of missing information and unanswered questions is staggering. As a citizen of this country I feel I have the right to demand my concerns be addressed satisfactorily before the president and his ilk use the murders as an excuse to strip us of our 2nd amendment rights.
Of course he did, how convenient for both mother and son killed..yup, killed as in a programmed hit. Dead men tell no tales.
By the way, thank you for fixing my comment program.
Bingo! Another massive “Smoking Gun”.
The Intelhub is blowing away the rest of the “alternative” media in it’s fantastic coverage of this obvious HOAX.
As I’ve been saying for weeks, Adam Lanza disappeared over 3 years ago and was either dead or locked up in a government mental institution.
Now, it appears that he died a day before the “Made for TV” drama produced and directed by the Illuminati.
Maybe CIA punk Anderson Cooper will wave his “owl” picture, he shoved in our faces, again and interview some more FAKE family members who express their outrage (at being busted as FAKES).
Bravo!
You mean how Oswald was shot by Ruby before any statements?
And remember that Dorothy Kilgallen, who had been interviewing Ruby in his jail cell, suddenly died. She was found sitting straight up, fully dressed, in bed, dead! Then Ruby died–of cancer.
I have been doing genealogical research for 20+ years and I believe this was a reference added by a Genealogy Bank member. I am very familiar with the Social Security death index. It often takes months or years for the index to be updated. Adam Lanza does not show on any other Social Security Death Index search on any other site. He is not in the SSDI anywhere else. First, the format of this result if completely wrong. Any hit on the SSDI shows date of birth, date of death, SS#, and last known residence by zip code. The word “proven” is never used. They would use “verified” meaning they had a death certificate on record. This is what a normal SSDI hit looks like:
Name: Rene Lanza
SSN: 002-26-0072
Last Residence: 03104 Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States of America
Born: 8 Aug 1885
Died: Dec 1967
State (Year) SSN issued: New Hampshire (1951-1953
I believe that what you are showing here has been added to Genealogy Bank by a member there. They may have simply gotten the death date wrong when typing in their information.
That’s why this article was written, let’s flush this out. Keep digging. Thanks for the input.
So, what you’re saying is that any member can go into this system and input data that’s supposed to come directly from the SSDI?
The reason I ask is that I would fully expect the government to have their shills immediately try to debunk this if they were caught.
I’m not saying you’re a shill, but I do find it very curious that a system supposedly getting information directly from the SSDI would allow anyone to go into it and add data into the SSDI.
In fact, I’m going to call them and see if that’s possible. I have a feeling it’s not. But I’ll see and let everyone know ASAP.
You can submit genealogical material to any database on a genealogical site, yes. I can report myself as dead to the genealogy site and reference it as coming from the SSDI and the next person that searches it on that site will come up with my report with the SSDI as the reference.
The fact that Adam Lanza does not show up on any other search of the SSDI on any other genealogical site, including the Master Index for the Death Index itself shows me that this was a member added reference. In addition, the information included/reported on this Genealogy Bank hit is not how the report would read were it from the SSDI. It includes information that they don’t index, such as estimated age, and it excludes information that will always come up on an SSDI hit.
Search the SSDI yourself if you don’t believe what I say.
I stand by my analysis that this was a member entered reference.
Okay. If this was entered by a ‘member’ and it was entered on the date registered, what are we talking about? Someone was aware that Adam P. Lanza would, in fact, die?
Registries of this type don’t have IP address or registrant’s (mambers) code IDs for validation of entries?
I am not questioning your knowledge on the matter. Instead, I am questioning the validity of these registries on a global basis; if, in fact, anyone can enter anyone else’s data and death.
There must be a way to verify exactly who entered this information = No?
Leslie needs to provide links to where her data is coming from. She’s using incorrect terminology and contradicting the information I got from the people at genealogybank.com.
Just think for a minute. Why would any genealogical web site allow people to access and make changes to their SSDI database?
Doing that would render their SSDI database fraudulent.
Leslie needs to provide more than words at this point. She needs to point me to a link to her “Master Index for the SSDI”, because it doesn’t come up when I search the term.
The SSA Death Master File is the where all SSDI data on genealogybank.com comes from. No “member” can access that database and make changes. So, you’re WRONG, whether intentional or not.
You may report yourself dead and reference the SSDI, but the SSA Death Master File would not reflect that. Detecting fraud, like reporting yourself dead, is one the reasons people and companies spend the big bucks to have access to this database.
As I stated above, ONLY someone with direct access to the SSA Death Master File could falsify information. Of course, It’s done all the time when the CIA “sheep dips” their operatives and for other nefarious government reasons.
The results format on genealogybank.com is the same for all their searches. Therefore, this one search result format is not “unique”.
Other sites may opt for the less expensive monthly or quarterly subscriptions, which would explain their not having this data yet.
http://www.ntis.gov/products/ssa-dmf.aspx
Keeping Social Security Death Master Data Up-to-date
Social Security Administration Death Master Online Search
6 versions
Social Security Administration Death Master File (Full File) Quarterly
SUB-5251
Social Security Administration Death Master Weekly Updates File
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Hey Leslie. I just spoke with the people from genealogybank.com
I’ve been informed that what you say CANNOT HAPPEN. NO MEMBERS CAN INPUT DATA INTO THE SSDI INDEX THEY GET THEIR DATA FROM.
Therefore, as someone below has already pointed out, it was either done intentionally by someone in the government with access to the SSDI or the information is accurate.
Either way, your claim that a “member” could have done this is simply NOT TRUE, which frankly, makes me real suspicious of YOU.
First, show me your conversation with the admin of the Genealogy Bank please. Secondly, if it doesn’t show up on the Master Index for the SSDI then it is not in the SSDI database. And that’s the bottom line. Adam Lanza does not show up anywhere in the Master Index for the SSDI.
Show me the link Leslie.
The actual term the core database where all this data comes from is called the “SSA Death Master File”, not the Master Index for the SSDI.
Neither of y’all are showing anything… please do. Conversation… and link? Then maybe someone can believe either of you.
This is correct. The SSI index reflects the information given to them by the person who files the death, sometimes the funeral director does it, sometimes the family, and it does take weeks if not months for the deaths to appear on the OFFICIAL index.
Something is fishy about this, but it’s not the date of Lanza’s death.
Hi Leslie. It says on the page:
“GenealogyBank updates the SSDI database each week. The updates include corrections to old death records, as well as new names of the recently deceased.”
I think you’re right tbh
From my genealogical research, Social Security death indexes only list those who were receiving Social Security at the time of their death. My dad died at age 60 and he appears nowhere on any of the SS Death Indexes. My mother died at age 78 and she shows up on all of the SS Death indexes. So Adam Lanza would have had to been receiving SS payments to show up on the Death Indexes. Right? Also, my sister who had done genealogical research on our family, since the 1980′s, was checking weekly to see when our mother’s death would show up on the SS death index. It was right at four months.
Well then something even fishier is going on because the victimsof Sandy Hook are also showing up including one of the children who was originally from England.
I guess no one reported to SS that my dad has passed on. Why would (do) people report to SS if the deceased are not receiving SS? What would be the point?
Right, Joe. I checked several of the victims and from what I can surmise the State of Issue might be where the SS number originated and not necessarily where the person died.
It’s curious that Dylan Hockley’s was issued in Maryland considering that his family supposedly came directly to Newtown from England.
Also the location is New Hampshire. That eliminates the error theory. Two errors is not logical to believe. It is either intentional fraud or true.
Absolutely!!!
New Hampshire is where the SSN was issued. Lanza was born in New Hampshire. They did not move to Newtown until ’98.
You do realize this whole conspiracy was made up by a guy who thinks he is the messiah and sent here by some Egyptian God to save mankind? You do realize that Photoshop can be used to put the number 13 in there? This is all BS plain and simple. I hope these children haunt you till the day you die!!! Why would the Government kill innocent kids for Gun control, that is stupid and ludicrous accusation to say the least. It doesn’t make one lick of sense, if the Government wanted to take your Guns they would, they don’t have to kill kids to do it. And if the Government is gonna take you over may I ask what army they are gonna use? Our Army is volunteer, the guys and gals in the army are just like you and me, do you really think they would try to take you over just because the man at the top says so? Fact is your the real traitors here, and I hope you have fun washing the blood of these kids off your vicious hands. Enjoy your haunted curse!!!
Looks like Intelhub has hit a nerve with this article.
The shills are starting to crawl out from under their rocks. I may have already exposed one of them. Now we have this clown.
It’s possible that you are what you say, but not likely.
If so, I pray the rest of the people in the US military aren’t as dumb as you are.
I find it hard to believe that with everything the government has done over the years, someone still claims they are innocent. I don’t know if I believe any of this conspiracy stuff or not. I’m not about to trust my government just because they said so though. Another thought is that God does tell us not to curse people. It’s an example of what’s in our soul and that we are not living in him. This man has much larger concerns than if our government is lying, or virtuous. He appears to possibly be blind and deaf. That is a much larger problem for him than I’d bet he’s willing to admit. I think he needs a little Gospel in his life. I do pray that this wasn’t done to make some political gain though. It is just too evil to comprehend. Praying for all of you. I think you are going to need a little divine intervention. Especially if you are right.
Wow, I think these people are more gullible and ignorant than I gave them credit for!
The government, on a daily basis, actively hides information from the public. What makes people think this situation is any different?
People are asking why they would kill children. BECAUSE THEY WOULD THEN HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SHOCK SIDE WITH THE GOVERNMENT ABOUT GUNS!
Secondly, why would a president tax the people to death and take away their only way to protect themselves? So he can either take over the country himself OR set the country up to be taken over by someone else.
Watch out America! Our future is at stake and it looks like it will be terrible place to live if we let this continue.
I am glad there are others that have enough sense to not believe what the government says AND have enough brains to try to show others the truth. But, showing others the truth about the government is a good way to get killed, so be careful…
Why would the government send more than TWO THOUSAND assault rifles to Mexico, where those rifles were used to murder more than 200 Mexican citizens and one American? And yet we know they did it, and are PROUD they did it. The person nominated to head the BATFE is an architect of the Fast and Furious program. Our government sets up these crises to ram through dangerous and reactionary measure to keep us “safe”.
If anyone doubts, what THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN HOSTAGE OUR GOVERNMENT AND LIVES CAN DO > http://youtu.be/TzEEgtOFFlM THIS IS ONLY A PINHEAD OF FACTUAL AND UNDENIABLY SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE THAT ‘CHILDREN’ HAVE NO VALUE WHATSOEVER (IF ALIVE) to these OCCULT FACTIONS in Washington or elsewhere on the Planet! Those here, who pop-up with innocent ignorance or intentional attempts to sabotage? The 1st: GET INFORMED! The 2nd: You are wasting your time and the American Taxpayer’s money! The ‘mind game’ is now also being played by the Once Upon A Time Victims and Pawns! It is time that the PERPETRATORS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THEIR COHORTS GET LOVINGLY AND PEACEFULLY NAILED TO A CROSS BY THE REWRITING OF THEIR ‘GAME PLAN’ FOR HUMANITY AND THE WORLD’S WELL BEING.. and not theirs!
Your ad hominem attack exposes you as the fraud you are. The government has many times killed its own people (see Kent State Massacre) and they display blatant disrespect for me and my children with every new law they pass, none of it with my consent. We are all in need of prayers my friend but I’m afraid you are the one in need of additional prayers, you are evil bro, stop it.
The JIG is up and the NEWS is really out pal… i know it very upsetting to your ego having to confront the ugly TRUTH, but I understand why you won’t do any real research because you might also have to admit the unthinkable. SANDY HOAKS is a LIE. ALL STAGED… Its an irrefutable FACT and far more blatant than 9/11.
TIME FOR THE SHEEP TO WAKE UP because these are the SAME group that orchestrated 9/11 and its ignorance like the poster above who represents why they got away with it. NOT GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN. Game OvER DOOMSDAY for the CABAL … especially when I release part 3 of this bombshell video thats decoded the hidden reason for Sandy Hook… a FALSE FLAG 9/11 Pt 2 about to occur probably within 11 days if the evidence in these video’s is correct. At least I can say I tried to get people to wake up and STOP what this sick GROUP is planning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txafEssMDXM&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT-YtOVYIMQ&feature=youtu.be
Please post any HARD EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE WAS SHOT.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
When I checked the SSDI I do not find an Adam P. Lanza. None of the SSDI records I’ve checked show “Proven”. That I find suspicious.
Thank you Maria for verifying my results and for taking the time to check for yourself.
Show me the link Leslie.
I searched the term “Master Index for the SSDI” and it doesn’t show any results.
That’s because it’s called “The SSA Death Master File”.
I would expect an expert like yourself to at least know the correct terminology.
Hi cyber friends…
http://Www.ntis.gov/products/ssa-dmf.aspx
The disclaimer on this page says….
The DMF may contain inaccuracies.
Thus, SSA cannot guarantee the accuracy of the DMF.
It says more, you can go to the link.
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/149/~/social-security's-death-master-file
Faqs ect.. If you click On the “change to the public death master file” it discusses errors ect
Lol, first thing I did was try it also. Doesn’t work.
Maybe me Leslie and Sarah are ALL shills, lol.. Maybe none of us can spell Adm Lansaaa. Or maybe your website is full of shit
Take a hike clown.
You idiots.
You’re probably putting the first name in the last name field and vice versa.
I can find it just fine.
Look Leslie. I’m out for the truth. If you can prove what you say I’ll be happy to accept that.
I do know that the establishment is scared sh!t and would pull anything to discredit us.
I certainly would NOT put it past them to intentionally feed us a poison pill to make us look like fools. 17 years after taking the “red pill”, from “China Gate” to “Sandy Hoax”, I’ve can truly say I’ve seen it all.
But, these people are arrogant, to the point of having Anderson Cooper hold up an “owl” picture from one of the Sandy Hoax “Not Dead” girls.
That’s as in your face as it gets. But why would they care? They’ve gotten away with everything from murdering a president in broad daylight, to attacking the US on 911.
So, anything at all is possible. Including paid shills on the internet, working for the criminals.
But, solid proof, is solid proof. If you have that, I’ll be happy to accept it and add it to my own knowledge database.
In the end, the TRUTH is what’s important.
Link please!
I checked plenty. Many of them say “Proven”.
I have read all these comments, and this is a very interesting thread. I have to agree totally with what Ken and Truthhurts have said here. The comment by CM, I found ludicrous and myopic. Governments have a long history of false flag operations and other treacherous acts. For example…USS Liberty 1967, and the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which got us into the 10 year political conflict/natural resource grab/multi-billion dollar so called defense industry. The most recent FALSE FLAG ops. **Okla.City, **SEPT.11th. **The Underwear Bomber **Aurora Theater, **Sandy Hook was also a STAGED Event. So WTF Up Shill…
I was able to look up and find this very same information simply by typing in his name. Wanting to be sure this site was accurate I looked up my dads information. It came up the exact day he died and in the exact place. There’s no way this infor is false if I can find the same page from my phone. All of you saying this is fake or Photoshopped, type in a persons name that you know for sure has died and when, then you’ll see.
You can follow the link yourself. It’s not photoshopped. Some of you people are ridiculous.
Also for those arguing that the info won’t say proven, my best friends says that as well, and my dads says verified, so they can say different things. Point is, why would my friends info also say proven when obviously no one entered hers incorrectly.
The SS Death Index is a correct term. Just google it. Here is what I can recall of it- it takes a while for subscription sites to get the updates, however, SSA gets the info by a morgue or hospital etc. and stops all SS checks by the end of that month. So I am not ready to decide on either side here really. I dont know why Geneology Bank would have it and noone else, and the info is Name, DOB, DOD, SS#, Last known residence city/state and zip, and if any benefits are going out- then to that residence info.
What part of “Genealogybank.com is not an official record” do some of you conspiracy whackos not comprehend? SMH
I won’t darken the door of this website again. Bye!
http://www.deathindexes.com/ssdi.html According to this link here, a few places have access to death index files that go through mid Dec. 2012.
Freedom From War
The United States Program
for General and Complete
Disarmament in a Peaceful
World
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277
Disarmament Series 5
Released September 1961
The progressive steps to be taken during the final phase of the disarmament program would be directed toward the attainment of a world in which:
(a) States would retain only those forces, non-nuclear armaments, and establishments required for the purpose of maintaining internal order; they would also support and provide agreed manpower for a U.N Peace Force.
(b) The U.N. Peace Force, equipped with agreed types and quantities of armaments, would be fully functioning.
(c) The manufacture of armaments would be prohibited except for those of agreed types and quantities to be used by the U.N. Peace Force and those required to maintain internal order. All other armaments would be destroyed or converted to peaceful purposes.
(d) The peace-keeping capabilities of the United Nations would be sufficiently strong and the obligations of all states under such arrangements sufficiently far-reaching as to assure peace and the just settlement of differences in a disarmed world.
U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE: 1961 O 609147
Name: Nancy Lanza
Born: 6 Sep 1960
Died: 14 Dec 2012
State (Year) SSN
issued: New Hampshire (1974-1975)
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.
Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.
The people who make these mounts left many neglected details.
I just looked up 12 of my soldiers that were killed in combat, and everyone of them had the correct date of death and the same format, that the author has. I don’t know about putting the info in, but my soldiers data was right.
My Dad’s has all the same information but does not give a source when searched through Ancestry.com. When I looked for him the the genealogybank.com my dad is not found at all.
All I can say at this point is “Wow…” I’m too shocked for words beyond that yet and until now had believed my shield of cynicism to be both impenetrable and imperturbable.
Quick quote from the ancestry.com version of this. “The absence of a particular person in the SSDI is not proof this person is alive. Additionally, there is a possibility that incorrect records of death have been entered on the DMF. The Social Security Administration does not guarantee the accuracy of the file.” http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693
This is the equivalent of Microsoft being involved because Word says Lanza is misspelled. It’s entered by humans and filled with their errors. Yes, these people are hired to be perfect, but they’re not. If we can get a proper death certificate with the date and not some numbers thrown into a computer in a hurry by someone in a cubicle, then I’ll start flipping s**t. Until then, it’s quite obviously human error.
After reading much of the comments, I will say, where there are people on the inside doing evil to further an agenda, there are also people who are trying to stop them from the inside. Perhaps this information is an attempt to show Adam Lanza was not there on December 14 and it needs further attention to find the truth.
Instead of shutting down schools, we should be shutting down this sort of stupidity.
I find it interesting that all of the children I looked up were in the registry with different states of issuance other than Conn. for most of the children. Were ALL of the children receiving SSI disability payments? Some of the adults were registered, some were not. All of the Sandy Hook names that I looked up said proven, but other people with the same name I clicked on said verified. My own mother, who received SSI for years and died nine years ago, is not in the registry. I would not consider this as an official source.
good grief.conspiracy theorists have no life,thusly they fill it up with action and drama..get a life.it’s not cool anymore to sit at waffle house or dennys for hours seriously discussing conspiracy theories.it’s old school.find a girlfriend or something.
Why are you here then? Just to make fun of us? Wheres your girl Romeo? You can call me a conspiracy theorist if it makes you feel better as it has no effect on me what-so-ever. I refuse to be lied to one more time by the government, the media, and people like you.
If the theory is that the real murderers shot Lanza on the 13th and dumped his body at the school on the 14th during the massacre, who would have entered the date as the 13 in the database and why? Also, why would they kill Lanza the day before instead of the same day when it would be obvious he was dead for 1 day as opposed to 1 hour?
I’ve carefully watched the coroner on the news and I figure they wouldn’t need to worry about details such as how many hours he had been dead as it is obvious the coroner in question is no more than a rubber-stamp with severe dissociative disorder.
As to why they would kill him a day before, we can only speculate. Maybe they didn’t. The best-laid plans can come to nothing because of chance – in fact they often do. Maybe he died by accident, or maybe his programming broke down and he killed himself. In either case, what would they do? Ditch the whole episode and start over, or move ahead anyway the best way they could?
As far as I am concerned the question is rhetorical.
what about that drugs’n'guns’latin’kings thing? and why so many sloppy mistakes, almost like ‘they’ want us to ‘agree’ with their agenda…. after all we have to agree or they can’t take the power… if we are ‘informed’ and ‘comply’ who are we to complain…. that’s the way htese evil bagains work, you have to agree to the parasite before it moves in…
thus folks stick to the Truth and to Unity in Wisdom and don’t let them divide and conquer!
Do you people have nothing better to do than disprove stuff all day? Let life happen.
Dianne: Your philosophy just gt another 26 people (mostly children) murdered
Move out of the way lady, people are dying everyday because of attitudes like yours. I know you are a troll because if life was so important to you, as you profess, you wouldn’t be here right now and you damn sure wouldn’t be belittling people. Folks who are at peace with themselves would never make such a suggestion, you need to find your soul. I hope the money you make from your fruitless endeavors is worth it.
As I said above, anything is possible when dealing with psychopaths who have trillions of dollars at their disposal.
But this, prior date thing, has now become epidemic in the Sandy Hoax aftermath.
There are pictures (one of Ryan Lanza taken into custody on 12-13-12) and other media references stating the date incorrectly.
There are up to TEN different web sites, and Google screen shots of searches capturing other sites, that are time stamped prior to 12-14-12.
Now, we have this SSDI report that states he was dead on the day prior to the event.
All I will say with 100% conviction is, Sandy Hook is a complete HOAX. I don’t believe anyone was shot. There is NOT ONE PIECE OF HARD EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS ANYONE BEING SHOT.
The EMT’s NEVER EVEN LEFT THE FIRE STATION. Gawd help anyone who would actually believe people were shot after knowing that.
Truth–I am going to hit you with something very easy–no linkas, webpages–even though I have PLENTY of that at my disposal to give you later if you like–but for now just some good ole logic for your hoax THEORY–which is all it is..no PROOF.–here you are…
What 1 parent would agree or be ok with going the rest of their lives–or even just the months or possibly years it would take to get guns taken away–having to tell EVERYONE–friends, family, the WORLD that their child was dead–when in this reality he/she was really alive and in hiding? That is just 1 parent–now add 20 SETS of parents to agree with that? 20 sets of parents would have to agree to something that if you ask any child psychiatrist–would completely screw up each child’s psyche—having to play dead to the world for awhile…Do YOU honestly think all these parents AGREED to subject their children to this kind of “torture”?.
If you answer that question HONESTLY–you will all the answers you need. It would be crazy of you to say that ALL the parents that have been on tv are fake–they are not. That would mean the whole town has been replaced by actors–police, fire, everyone. The interview I just watched with the first 3 police officers that went in the school–NO ONE is that good of an actor–if they WERE–they would be on the big screen making alot of money, NOT doing CRISIS acting for a state or a small company..Let that sink in for awhile.
Frankly, you’re quite naive.
First of all, everyone has a price. Secondly, these kids have different names in real life. These “Parents” are all actors.
Some of these actors have already been outed as doing this.
And third….you say you have GENUINE HARD EVIDENCE THAT PEOPLE WERE KILLED?
THEN YOU’RE GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE ROB.
LET’S SEE YOUR “SO CALLED” HARD EVIDENCE SO I CAN DEBUNK IT.
PS…..The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
Re: SSDI:
1. You guys are having a cow about trivialities that don’t matter. If Ancestry or GenealogyBank sites display the info a little differently than other sites, so what. Save your energy. Focus. The only thing that truly matters is the DOD. In the old days there were more sites that offered the SSDI info free & had more detail. Now, too many sites want you to register or pay for the info, etc. & give less detail for free or w/o registering. PITA.
2. As for it saying “State of Issue: NH,” uh yeah, that’s where Nancy & Adam were born, Kingston, NH, & that’s probably where their SSN’s were issued! It does not say “Death Certificate Issued in NH.” It’s more than likely referring to the state that issued their SSNs. Don’t have a cow, lol.
3. As for the guy who said his Dad was not listed at SSDI but his Mom was: Did you contact SSA with proof your Dad died? People don’t automatically get on the SSDI unless SOMEBODY tells SSA! It does not matter whether someone was receiving SS Benefits or not. All that matters is, Did SOMEBODY tell SSA that so-&-so died? Either a family member tells SSA, or morgues tell SSA, or hospitals tell SSA, or other State or Govt. Agencies, Police, or whatever. A lot of people don’t make the SSDI because nobody tells SSA.
4. Don’t rely on “affiliate” or “reseller” sites like Ancestry or GenealogyBank, etc. If you want more info, go TO THE SOURCE, ie, go to SSA.GOV & in their search window in upper right corner, type in “DEATH MASTER FILE” (<< official name of it!) aka "DMF" or "Death List," etc. & a ton of search results will come back that you can read everything there is to know about the DMF & how it works, etc. Some of what you'll learn, besides what is already stated above, is that:
–SSA.GOV does not sell subscriptions to the list. That is handled through a Dept. Of Commerce site called NTIS.GOV.
–At NTIS.GOV are various subscription options/prices ranging from $10 for ONE name search, through $300 for 100 name searches, through $650-$995- & up to $14,000!!! for various levels of bulk searches, etc.
–When you are ready to buy whichever subscription, NTIS.GOV sends you to a site called SSDMF.COM (for SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH MASTER FILE). The SSDMF.COM site also offers smartphone apps to access the DMF for those with paid subscriptions.
–You'll also learn at SSDMF.COM in the "Mandatory Requirements" menu on the left, that anyone who uses/shares/resells the DMF MUST let people know that the SSA is constantly updating/amending &/or correcting the info & they strongly suggest people make sure they get the weekly updates, etc.
5. Backing up to SSA.GOV site & DMF Search Results at SSA.GOV, they had a .PDF update I read yesterday 1/21/13 re some LAW that was passed a few years ago that went into effect Nov. 2011, that the DMF could NO LONGER LIST PUBLICLY info that came directly from STATE GOVTs. It said the DMF had approx. 89 million names, & having to drop-from-public-view the info from State Govts. meant the DMF lost approx. 4.8(?) million names. I did not read the whole thing & no, I didn't save the stupid link. Go to SSA.GOV & do a search as previously described. I guess when all the crooks who work for the states die, they don't want people to know? I have no idea, as I didn't read it all, just a quick scan.
6. SSA.GOV search results also said in one of their Q&A sheets re the DMF, that the best place "for the public" to obtain death info on anybody is from your State VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE.
7. The SSDMF.COM site said if paid subscribers (or anyone, I guess) finds ERRORS in the DMF, to NOT contact SSDMF.COM nor NTIS.GOV, but to go to your LOCAL SSA Office "with PROOF" of the supposed error. So I suppose Intellhub could print out the GenealogyBank page & take it to your local SSA Office & ask them why "mass murderer Adam Peter Lanza's DOD is 12/13/12, the day BEFORE the alleged mass murdering took place?" They might at least be willing to check their copy of the most current DMF to see if he's really on there or not (Leslie said her paid NTIS/SSDMF copy showed he was not on it). Just remember, besides DHS ordering millions of hollow-point bullets, SSA also got a big batch as well, so Be Nice when you visit SSA. Play Dumb like a John Q. Sheeple. Don't take a bullhorn like AJ, lol.
— Or you could fork out the $10 at the NTIS.GOV site or the SSDMF.COM site to search for his one name. ($10, 1-name, 1-search, period).
8. Also, this DOD 12/13/12 info was posted on 1/20/13 at a PrisonPlanet Forum thread. I first saw it 1/20/13 at a wordpress blog called "Fellowship of The Minds" (FOTM) & in their 1/20/13 article about it, they linked to the PrisonPlanet Forum thread.
9. Lastly, after reading the FOTM post, I searched CluesForum.info thread re Sandy Hook (look under their "Local PsyOps" section), & found a post dated 1/12/13 by "SisterLover" stating she checked an SSDI but Adam Lanza was not yet on it even though other "victims" were. So if AL's name IS on the DMF now, it was possibly only added within the last 8 days (1/12/13 – 1/20/13).
Ok, that's all I know. HTH. I posted most of this same info at FOTM Comments yesterday as well.
As I stated above, it’s entirely possible that someone with internal access (working as web master etc.) or even a hacker (government?) could do something like this to tweak everyone.
But that doesn’t change the fact that there is ZERO evidence that anyone was shot, including Adam Lanza and his mother.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
The EMT’s never left the Fire House.
Bullsh*t….why is the comment section under maintenance….I think this is bogus..my comment better appear soon…..This tells me that all the crap being spewed on here is false!!! I don’t consider this a legit site. Bye!!!!!!!!!
Geesh..I had a good answer to some of TPR’s post..I am not going to repeat all I wrote…can’t remember everything…
Good luck in spreading your crap!!!!
What crap?
We’re debating the facts surrounding this alleged “massacre”.
This latest article is just one of many Bizarre things that have occurred and definitely worth fleshing out.
Well…your ‘facts’ as you call them are very questionable.
I have one fact for you. If Adam was killed the day before and planted on the scene by other murderers as you reported that would be incorrect. According to my Licensed Professional Funeral Director/Embalmer Husband…the date of death is the date and time of discovery of the body. This is standard all over the US. How can the date of death be a date before the discovery of Adam’s body???
On notifying the SSA: The Funeral Director fills out and files the death certificate with the state agency..usually thru the county clerk’s office. The Director, also, notifies the SSA electronically..use to be by letter.
If they are a John/Jane Doe the filing of the death certificate is done by the Coroner or Medical Examiner’s office. Usually..they don’t know the SS#. If a body has identification..the same procedure is followed…except they would contact the SSA.
As far as not EMT’s on site…The police have to clear the area and secure it before any EMT’s would be allowed in the crime scene. Also…the Fire Station was across the street from the Fire Station…I remember seeing Ambulances on the scene.
In order to prove your case…you need to see the certified copy of Adam’s Death Certificate. This is the only way you will solve this debate.
“If Adam was killed the day before and planted on the scene by other murderers as you reported that would be incorrect”
You must be confusing me with people who think anyone was shot at the SH school that day. There is ZERO HARD evidence that anyone was shot. I’ve been challenging people about this for weeks. Nobody has come up with a thing.
Secondly, you seem to believe that the government couldn’t bribe or blackmail (or threaten to kill) a Funeral Director, to get them to say (or sign documents) anything they want them to say. So forget any “standard operating procedure”.
If you do believe that, go back to your fairy tale world. You’re beyond help. Not saying you are, mind you. Just saying “IF”. I truly hope you’re not that naive.
Lastly, no matter how hard you try, you’ll not find any reference or picture that debunks the FACT that the EMT’s never entered the school.
Ken says: You must be confusing me with people who think anyone was shot at the SH school that day. There is ZERO HARD evidence that anyone was shot. I’ve been challenging people about this for weeks. Nobody has come up with a thing.
Secondly, you seem to believe that the government couldn’t bribe or blackmail (or threaten to kill) a Funeral Director, to get them to say (or sign documents) anything they want them to say. So forget any “standard operating procedure”.
If you do believe that, go back to your fairy tale world. You’re beyond help. Not saying you are, mind you. Just saying “IF”. I truly hope you’re not that naive.
Why won’t you debate me on what I just posted??? Don’t have any credible answers, heh??
Don’t put words in my mouth! I never said anyone was shot or not shot in the school…that’s not what I am debating. I am debating the date of death.
Another thing..don’t assume what I believe about the gov’t. You don’t have a clue what I believe or think.
Show me the credible evidence to support your arguments.
The fire station was across the street from the school…sorry..for the typo.
The Fire Station is not across the street from the school. It’s up the road about 1/2 mile or so.
That’s why you saw pictures of everyone walking on the street.
I find it interesting that GenealogyBank is the only site I can find any of this information on. As if THEY had a mistake. Other sites have plenty of information, but not this. I can find other deaths from around the same time, or after, but not this one. So the “they update faster” is not valid. Likely, this is just fuel for conspiracy nuts that have nothing better to do with their lives than search for hours on end to find something on the internet that justifies their existence. GET A LIFE.
These sites update their databases at different times. It’s not a direct feed from the SSA MAster Death File.
If the SSA MAster Death File, does not show Lanza’s death as being on the 13th, then it HAS to be a hacker or someone with inside access to the GenealogyBank web site.
But you’d think, with all the furor surrounding this, GenealogyBank would have double checked to make sure they don’t look like fools. As far as I know, they still have Lanza’s death listed the day before.
I’ll have to check that.
There’s no way to tell for sure unless someone pays the $10 to view the SSA Master Death File. I’ll probably do it later tonight or tomorrow, I want to put this thing to bed, once and for all.
Geesh…You guys just don’t get it..do you???
All I am trying to say……IS:
The SSDI database entry is NOT the official document for determining the date of death. The entry is not a legal document.
A Certified Death Certificate is the ONLY official document to prove a persons death.
FYI: An insurance company would never accept the entry in the SSDI database for the proof of death. You must have a certified death certificate to claim the death benefit. Many other entities require a certified death certificate to collect or change documents and/or probate a will.
Without seeing a copy of the death certificate….you can not prove Adam’s date of death…PERIOD, whether you think it was a gov’t conspiracy or not and that he died day before the incident or not.
You people need to move on from the date of death entry in the SSDI database. It doesn’t prove a dam thing.
Stop researching the SS databases…the answer is on his death certificate..find that and you will have your answer. Simple as that.
Well, you seem to be an expert on all this. Why don’t you tell us how to find the death certificate?
If you can’t your information, while interesting, is of ZERO value in determining what actually happened.
Where is your proof that it didn’t happen? First, check out this story from an EMT from that day. http://www.dailynews.com/ci_22247188/sandy-hook-emt-and-former-whittier-resident-reflects
As an EMT, this story sounds legit. If all the victims were obviously DOA then the EMT’s would have had no reason to enter the school. In an investigation, despite what you see on TV, as few people as possible are allowed into an active crime scene. Before EMT’s are allowed to enter the police must clear the scene (most police have BLS training), while they are doing so they will check victims for signs of life…if none are found EMT’s are turned away and ME’s are called instead. All the EMT’s not entering the building proves is that all victims were DOA and the condition of their bodies was such that it was determined that there was nothing to be done.
To get a death certificate you must file the appropriate paperwork with the local courthouse…a fee may be charged. Typically, when doing genealogical research I use familysearch.org (they don’t charge or require membership)and while I have been able to find several victims and Nancy Lanza in their records I have not been able to find Adam. This is also not unusual. He was not carriying ID (at least not his own). So, before an official certificate of death is issued and information sent to SSA identity must be confirmed. DNA identification can take weeks if not months…and Lanza’s father did not claim, nor identify, his body until January.
If this is a conspiracy you are missing some key bits of information. 1. Who benefits? 2. What purpose does lying about this serve?
Also, are you aware, that conspiracies, by their nature, are very small…as in only a few people know the truth. If you are to be believed then not only is the Government behind it but also involved are the majority of residents in Newtown, all persons who are family of the victims, local police, and everyone at Sandy Hook elementary school…and that is just the beginning of who would have to be involved. Do you honestly believe that any government could pull off something of this scale? I am not saying that a government, even our government, can’t do bad things…I am not naive…but if you think that they could actually execute something on this scale, with this many involved parties and not have anyone run to the press with ‘proof’ that it was staged is just as naive. Not to mention I think you give our government waaaayyyy to much credit if you think they could pull this off.
@RJ:
I can’t reply above so I’m going to do it here.
EMT’s would have been the first people into the building after it was cleared by SWAT.
My brother works in a SWAT unit and told me that himself. The reasoning, is that EMT’s are trained to save lives, SWAT is trained to make sure the area is safe for them.
So, What you say on it’s face is absurd. To think that 26 people were all instantly shot dead and only one person got wounded is for fools to believe to begin with.
To think that the EMT’s would not be allowed the chance to save a childs life is BEYOND REACHING, IT’S DESPERATION.
Furthermore, there is no evidence, of any kind, that anyone was shot at all. No blood anywhere. No video from the schools video surveillance system. Not even a picture of the broken window. Hell, The parents never even “saw” their children’s “bodies” (because there are none)
All overhead videos show that there wasn’t even anything going on except a few people in uniform milling around. And the car, which we are told, belonged to Lanza’s mother taped off.
And, there are 600 students in that school. There are ZERO pictures of 600 students being led out of the building at any time. Just a dozen or so parents with their kids walking on the road around the fire station.
The entire thing is a HOAX. But, the desperately frightened will twist themselves into pretzels trying to believe there has to be a way that this HOAX could actually be true.
Truth
I checked out the interview with the EMT…he did say he SAW a person walking from the school who was shot…the Newtown EMS Captain accessed the situation..and told them to stand down because there was no body that could be saved.
What is so wrong with that statement??? It happens all the time.
Seems like a lot of ‘facts’ here are not official facts. 3 wounded people: 2 adults and 1 child according to official reports. No one can deny that this happened. It is the ‘WHY’ it happened; and, the ‘WHO’ who orchestrated this massacre that is the only discussion needed.
I would suggest that EVERYONE document their statements with ATTACHED ‘FACT-REFERENCES’ only after they have found the FACTS. Otherwise, this is all a hypothetical mind-game that will wind-up getting skewered by either the Feds or the Israelis, who apparently have taken interest in protecting the ‘original version’.
Are your FACTS coming from the same people that tell us the car Lanza used and is pictured being towed from the scene was Adam Lanza’s mothers?
If so, your “facts” aren’t worth sh!t.
Notice the license plate number on the vehicle “identified” by YOUR SOURCES as the one Lanza drove to the school. The same car Identified by YOUR sources as being LANZA’s MOTHERS car.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/police-find-no-evidence-connecticut-gunman-was-on-medication/
This license plate has been positively identified as belonging to Chris Rodia. So, YOUR sources are proven LIARS.
Maybe the 120 Lb Adam took public transportation or hitched a ride wearing his bullet proof vest and carrying 4 handguns, a 223 Bushmaster and ten or 12 clips?
This is just one of dozens of lies and disinformation that YOUR sources have vomited out to the gullible sheep.
So I suggest YOU have some REAL facts, not BS statements by the PROVEN LYING authorities.
@RJ
Finally…someone with some sound reasoning. I agree with RJ 100%.
Thanx for the sanity RJ!!!
The procedure for getting a death certificate is very easy.
Go to the vital records dept of the State of Connecticut.
Here’s the link: http://www.ct.gov/dph/cwp/view.asp?a=3132&q=388130
It’s the same in all states…birth, marriage and death certificates are all kept by the Dept of Public Health.
@Truth: I guess you missed something in your research, huh??? BTW, my husband is the expert…He’s been a Licensed Professional Funeral Director/Embalmer for over 30 yrs….He knows his stuff.
So could you please put the DOD on the SSDI to rest!!! I doesn’t mean JACK!!!! NOTHIN’ NADA!!!
Assuming all of you who believe Sandy Hook was a Hoax created by the gov’t are correct.
What would the gov’t's intent be for creating such a Hoax???
Just Curious.
If you are a registered gun owner you’ll find out shortly.
All those investigating this event must be on to something much bigger than perceived to invoke an attack of this magnitude. Israel activated a 5th column attack to discredit, humiliate, and shame anyone and everything pertaining to the Sandy Hook HOAX (Veteran’s Today). “You will know them by their words.”
Operation Persona ‘Sock Puppets’, Israel’s 5th Column, and the lot of CointelPro agents, trolls, and shills are out in full force. There is a huge price to pay for the depth of deception perpetrated on the American people and the world. When truth prevails—and it will, your masters will retreat underground. Where will you hide; that is, if they do not kill you first.
SOURCE: NEWSER – “Operation Persona”- ‘…bogus social media accounts, in the hopes of covertly influencing online discourse and spreading pro-American propaganda…’
SORRY this is off topic but I think you people want answers.
Adam played a very violent game by STEAM software called GunGame DM
His Profile is still cached online. His user name was:
Adam Lanza (no sound)
I think the game went to his head
@RJ Part II:
Some people live in La La Land.
“To get a death certificate you must file the appropriate paperwork with the local courthouse”
The government does whatever it wants. So forget your “appropriate paperwork”
“while I have been able to find several victims and Nancy Lanza in their records I have not been able to find Adam. ”
Just another site like the one that started all this. It’s not the SSA Master Death File. I’ve stated for quite some time the site could have been hacked.
“So, before an official certificate of death is issued and information sent to SSA identity must be confirmed. DNA identification can take weeks if not months”
May I refer my naive friend to the “appropriate paperwork” reply above.
Everything reported by the media has been a LIE. It would take me a long time to list them all.
Do I believe that Lanza’s father might want his kid and wife dead?
Well, there’s that little matter of him paying $289,800 a year in alimony plus more in support for Adam. Let’s not forget the FACT that Adam hasn’t been seen by anyone for more than years. No records of any kind for him either. But, I’m sure that’s no big deal to you.
“If this is a conspiracy you are missing some key bits of information. 1. Who benefits? 2. What purpose does lying about this serve?”
No, your missing ANYTHING that can actually prove anyone was killed.
“1. Who benefits?”
1) Honestly, I think you’re a troll because EVERYONE knows why they did it. It’s called “coming after the people’s right to bear arms”.
“2. What purpose does lying about this serve?”
2) It makes taking the guns away easier more popular.
“Also, are you aware, that conspiracies, by their nature, are very small…as in only a few people know the truth.”
Says who? Anderson Cooper?
Thousands of people inside the establishment know that 911 was an inside job. I know, you probably think 19 hijackers got on 3 planes without boarding passes and outfoxed the entire US military and intelligence agencies. If so, tell me now so I can ignore anything else you say.
It’s really simple. back to the basics.
People in power, pay off or threaten or kill others to get them to fall in line. It’s worked since the beginning of time, my brutally naive friend.
“also involved are the majority of residents in Newtown, all persons who are family of the victims, local police, and everyone at Sandy Hook elementary school”
I know this will come as a shock to someone as painfully gullible as yourself, but YES. I KNOW anyone, like nurse Cox, who played a role in this, is involved. And many people in Newtown are well aware of this HOAX.
I’m sure you aren’t aware so let me clue you in. Here’s the CT Chief Medical Examiner at his Press Conference: “I hope this all doesn’t come crashing down on he heads of the people of Newtown.”
He KNOWS this is a HOAX but can’t keep his mouth completely shut. He tried to demote himself to get out of this HOAX.
“Do you honestly believe that any government could pull off something of this scale? ”
May I refer you to 911 again…
“I am not naive”
Oh yes you are….painfully so
“if you think that they could actually execute something on this scale, with this many involved parties and not have anyone run to the press with ‘proof’ that it was staged is just as naive.”
May I once again refer my tragically naive friend to 911
“Not to mention I think you give our government waaaayyyy to much credit if you think they could pull this off”
They didn’t “pull it off” on me. They “pulled it off” on all the desperate suckers who are too afraid to acknowledge the obvious. That obviously includes YOU. That’s why they continue get bolder and bolder. Sheeple simply cannot believe a conspiracy so monstrous could exist.
So, I’m going to leave you with a quote from someone that knew more about “Conspiracies” than you will in 100 life times:
“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” – J. Edgar Hoover
It was a mistake, this is being corrected through the correction procedure governed by the SSA. Also, any of you guy read the disclaimer immediately below the information provided? I pasted a copy….CIAO
Disclaimer: The Social Security Death Index is made available to the public through a number of websites, including GenealogyBank.com, GenealogyBank is only a host for the Social Security Death Index. As a result, we do not control the information that is provided us in the SSDI.
In order to have information corrected or removed, please contact your local Social Security Administration (SSA) office. Documented proof of an error may be required. Contact information for your local office can be found at http://www.ssa.gov.
Here’s the CT State Medical Examiner telling everyone he hopes this (HOAX) doesn’t come crashing down on the people of Newtown….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xksBrRejeoM
I love the part where the Green family play the parts of the Soto family and mock us all with their little inside joke about “green” being Vickies favorite color.
There is still ZERO hard evidence that anyone was shot. People saying stuff, is NOT hard evidence because people LIE all the time.
It’s hard evidence or it’s worthless.
REPLY: My comment on FACTS concerning WOUNDED are based on released official reports
NOT ALL WERE DOA OF THE AUTHORITIES. Thus, the EMTs should have entered when the zone was cleared.
I find it odd that we are finding this info. The government wants us to know blatantly it was a false flag, but why?
These people are always moves ahead of us, why are they doing this? Making fun of us? Provoking us?
I paid the $10 dollars to see the master file. He died on Dec. 13. I took a screenshot. Not sure how to post it on here. It also stated that verified means by a family member and proven means death certificate observed. His said proven.
Legacy.com is a free records search site that also lists Adam Lanza’s death date as December 13th 2012.
http://bayimg.com/PajGjAaEA
This is getting very weird since multiple websites show his death date the day before the Sandy Hook event. (genealogy bank being another site).
Melanie upload your picture to bayimg.com so we can see.
Sandy Hook is definitely a false flag event to remove and/or restrict the 2nd amendment rights to bare arms.
#1 The government used school children to gain sympathy from the public in hopes to get public support of gun bans.
#2 The government obviously used kindergarteners as “victims” since very little info can be found out about them, say in comparison to 3rd graders or 6th graders that would have been around longer.
#3 Obama is guilty of treason, terrorism and mass murder for his drone attacks that kill many children and many people.
This is all a continuation of the false flag usa government 911 attacks.
The Bush administration and the Obama administration are the real terrorists.
http://bayimg.com/OAJMmAAEa
I see that even now, a month later, it is still part of our collective consciousness that KINDERGARTNERS were killed because we heard it all day on the 14th. Later it was changed to FIRST GRADERS, apparently no kindergartners killed. This to me is one of, if not THE biggest piece of evidence that the whole thing was a hoax. There is zero per cent chance it would appear all the KINDERGARTNERS were missing FOR hours and then it turn out to be the FIRST GRADERS. Oops. Guess rather than rewrite all of those obituaries for six and seven year olds that were written in advance we’ll just change the dead to first graders. I don’t recall anyone even bothering to point out the error. An error that had zero chance of being made considering the list of dead came as a direct result of children never showing up at the firehouse. Again… Oops!
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@ Wan says: For some reason I am unable to “reply” directly.
@ Wan says: January 25, 2013 at 9:45 pm For some reason I am unable to “reply” directly.
QUOTE “I find it odd that we are finding this info. The government wants us to know blatantly it was a false flag, but why? These people are always moves ahead of us, why are they doing this? Making fun of us? Provoking us?”END QUOTE
Interesting that you should bring up the OBVIOUS not addressed. Allow me to piggyback on your comment pertaining to another issue not addressed. Once it is proven, without a doubt, that Adam Lanza died Dec 13, 2012, how will this information be used? I guess my question is can this information be used to hold those responsible for perpetrating a false flag against the American people, accountable? If so, how do the people pursue action?
Maybe they are confident that it is too late for anyone to cause damage to them that could stop their end-game; of which, they are definitely in the last quarter… or better, last weeks or months at best. Follow this ‘Game’ of theirs on an international basis; and, it is easier to calculate and see what is happening in the USA.
http://bayimg.com/OAJMmAAEa
This is from the master file. I paid 10.00 to look it up.
Good job. Too bad the media and law enforcement officials will ignore it and when finally presented with it will classify it as a clerical error.
So the death “facts” didn’t really come from the government’s SSDI, did it? I just looked up what is shown on this page and the link very clearly says, “Geneologybank.com.” Somebody better get right before they start spewing from the mouth.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/222/929/91904001.jpg
Oops……didn’t mean to post that funny pic…..wrong link.
http://bayimg.com/OAJMmAAEa
That is straight from social security master file………….its real. Pay the $10 and look it up for yourself.
me thinsk everyone here is missing the vailed disinfo. It’s New Hampshire, that’s the one, plussssss, the date 121312 — 322, 111
Please expound?
i can’t. you’d poop your pants. just one of many dark stories that makes me wonder how crazy is it? Wacked shit. I wouldn’t go as far as drawing a NH Betty Barney Hill connection to this craziness, but, well,…….
Is it possible the date is just wrong? There are ways to verify the date. On Facebook (for business) there IS a way to back date your story/post. That claim just can’t hold up without additional proof.
it could be wrong date. SSDI had my paternal grandmother’s death name total wrong and birth info wrong and my maternal grandmother death date also wrong by month and year….they alleged because no dependents and claimed info was provided to them months late.also my cousin and his ridge killed on Thanksgiving day 1980 in an accident and fire that ensued were listed as dying on the Wednesday prior….SSDI folks screw up alot.
RE: F Gregg Meagher says: January 27, 2013 at 7:06 pm
I was hoping for a response from Truthurts but thank-you for your response. It’s obvious they don’t care if the people know. In addition, it does not seem to make a bit of difference when it does become “Public Knowledge” because we are fed lip service and “WE” do not hold them accountable. We, the American people are responsible for the actions of our government. It does NOT matter how many laws they write, it does not make their actions LAWFUL! Could it be that this is a tactic to keep us confused and distracted: to divert our attention away from more important issues? Silence echo’s Truth. Peace Out…
Just checked, the record has been conveniently updated to reflect the 14th as the date of death.
Do you guys find it weird that Nancy Lanza had just arrived back at her home Thursday evening, after a two-night trip to Bretton Woods, New Hampshire and the record’s issuing state is NH????? :O
The issuing state is where her Social Security number was issued. It’s not a death certificate.
LOL everyone knows they are laying these false trails to keep us from getting to the right questions, like where is the surveillance video and the 911 call audio. We wouldn’t even be arguing about this if we had a still frame of Lanza in a pool of his own blood.
Anyone can hack into a government website or get a date wrong. The government document of record on deaths is the state death certificate, notarized by a state official. Nothing else means squat.
But the Zionist controllers keep showing how much smarter they are than us, and maybe they are right. The video and the 911 call audio, people. Every minute we waste on this stuff is a minute less calling for what is important. And they know it.